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Are Japanese motorcycles more reliable?

Texas Adventure Posted on January 29, 2018 by RichardJanuary 7, 2018

It’s an interesting time in history for dual sport bikes (street legal but off-pavement capable motorcycles weighing 300-400 lbs). What makes it so interesting is that there is a very distinct duality in the dual sport world. An old versus new situation, with little else being available.

On one side are the Japanese manufacturers which, with just one exception, only sell very old technology dual sport bikes in the USA. For example, Honda sells the XR650L which has been unchanged for the past 26 years. Kawasaki sells the KLR650, which has had one update in the 31 years. Suzuki’s DRZ400S is going on 18 years with no changes.

On the other side, the European manufacturers don’t sell old-school motorcycles. Everything the Euros are selling in the USA are modern bikes with regular upgrades. For example, Husqvarna released the 701 Enduro in 2016 and then promptly updated it with an entirely new motor in 2017.

So fans of dual sport motorcycles, of which I’m one, get two basic choices – inexpensive Japanese bikes with very old technology or significantly more expensive Euro bikes with modern technology.

 

Fans of the old Japanese dual sport motorcycles typical advance two arguments when discussing the relative merits of Japanese thumpers versus European thumpers:

  1. Japanese bikes are more reliable.
  2. Japanese bikes are easier to repair when you break down in less-developed countries with few motorcycle service shops.

 

Here is an example of this argument from a comment posted on this website: “Have you traveled beyond the USA and Europe on a Husqvarna? It’s a lot less reliable and difficult to fix in primitive conditions. It pretty much has to be dealer serviced. It’s also a lot less robust offroad than a deathproof XR.”

This particular commenter was addressing my comparison of the Honda XR650L to the Husqvarna 701 but I’ve seen the same sentiments expressed about other makes & models.

Let’s talk about the supposed superior reliability of Japanese motorcycles over Euro bikes first.

The major challenge with debating reliability is the lack of any actual supporting data. I have yet to find any public reports on the reliability of any motorcycle brand. While I think that riders generally believe that Japanese bikes are more reliable than other brands, that belief is never backed up with any verifiable data. We don’t have any real numbers – facts, figures, studies, etc – comparing long term reliability of one brand of motorcycle to others. Consumer Reports informs us of the expected reliability of any make or model automobile but does not offer the same insight when it comes to motorcycles. Which leaves us all guessing as to the actual long-term reliability of any brand or model of motorcycle.

I’ve personally owned two KLRs (one 1st gen, one 2nd gen), two DRZs, one Honda XR650L, one KTM 500 EXC, and three Husqvarnas (TE610, TR650, 701 Enduro). My personal experience has been that the KTM and the three Huskys were noticeably more reliable than any of the five Japanese bikes. The first KLR I owned had multiple issues, one of which required a new head. The second KLR was an oil burner from day 1 and had electrical issues which left me stranded on the side of the road a long way from home. The DRZs were the most reliable of the Japanese bikes I’ve owned but both had multiple minor issues. The “deathproof” Honda was the least reliable motorcycle I’ve ever owned, also leaving me stranded on the side of the road a long way from home. The motor had to be rebuilt twice during the time I owned it at a cost of several thousand dollars.

In comparison, I put almost 20,000 miles on the TE610 – twice as many miles than I put on any of the Japanese bikes – and had one significant issue during that time. The rectifier fried, leaving me stranded on the side of the road. I never had any issues with the TR650 in 10,000 miles of ownership. I’ve put 5,000 miles on the KTM with one minor issue (the horn bracket broke). I’ve only put 3,000 miles on the 701 and though it’s a bit too early to judge long-term reliability I’ve had no issues yet.

None of the above is to suggest that Japanese motorcycles are not reliable or that Euro motorcycles are more reliable than other brands. There is no way to tell if my personal experiences with the motorcycles I’ve owned is representative of other’s experiences owning the same model bikes. For example, none of us have any way of determining the overall reliability of the XR650L compared to similar motorcycles. Were the issues on my XRL an anomaly or have other XRL owners experienced similar issues? Unfortunately, we have no way to tell.

All that being said, my personal bias is that there likely isn’t any real difference in reliability amongst the various major motorcycle manufacturers. I suspect that they are all about the same when it comes to reliability. But that’s one man’s opinion – unsupported by any verifiable facts or figures. And the same goes for everyone else’s opinions too – there is no definitive data to prove the point one way or the other.

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European vs Japanese – Part 2

Texas Adventure Posted on October 20, 2017 by RichardOctober 18, 2017

In the first part of this multi-part post, we began exploring a question asked on advrider.com as to whether European bikes are worth the premium over Japanese bikes. We established that the Europeans don’t make a 400-500cc dual sport bike … Continue reading →

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Goodbye Honda

Texas Adventure Posted on July 24, 2017 by RichardJuly 19, 2017

With the addition of the Husqvarna 701 Enduro to my stable I decided to sell my beloved Honda XR650L. Goodbye you big red pig – you were a great bike.

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Yes, that’s a public road

Texas Adventure Posted on June 21, 2017 by RichardMay 23, 2017

Many of the counties in the western half of the Texas hill country are sparsely populated, which means the counties don’t have a very large tax base. Consequently, many county roads are not only dirt, but are only sporadically maintained. It’s … Continue reading →

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Honda XR650L – a better countershaft sprocket

Texas Adventure Posted on May 2, 2017 by RichardAugust 14, 2017

Like all motorcycles, the Honda XR650L has some known weak points. One of which is the countershaft / front sprocket contact area. There are issues with the OEM sprocket that XRL owners have been using workarounds to solve since Big … Continue reading →

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Loeffler Lane, Mason County

Texas Adventure Posted on April 10, 2017 by RichardApril 4, 2017

This is the low water crossing of Birdsong/Beaver Creek on Loeffler Lane in Mason County. Nice, huh?

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CR 315 again

Texas Adventure Posted on April 7, 2017 by RichardApril 8, 2017

Another pic of CR 315 in Llano County.  

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CR 315 aka Sandy Creek Road

Texas Adventure Posted on April 5, 2017 by RichardMarch 27, 2018

Located in Llano County, CR 315 is one of my favorite dirt roads in the hill country.

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Spring in the Texas hill country

Texas Adventure Posted on April 3, 2017 by RichardApril 4, 2017

Spring has sprung in the hill country and everything has turned a beautiful shade of green. My XR650L in its natural state.

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The Big Red Pig

Texas Adventure Posted on August 8, 2016 by RichardJuly 4, 2016

  I don’t know where it started but somebody somewhere coined the term “Big Red Pig”. There is a debate as to whether that term was first applied to either the Honda XR650R or the Honda XR650L. Most seem to … Continue reading →

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The road goes on forever and the adventure never ends

Texas Adventure Posted on June 13, 2016 by RichardJune 13, 2016

With apologies to Robert Earl Keen, I have made a small modification to his lyrics to fit this particular picture of my hot rod Honda in the Texas hill country.

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They are hills. Just not big ones.

Texas Adventure Posted on May 11, 2016 by RichardMay 4, 2016

We call it the Texas hill country because this part of Texas is hillier than the rest of the state.  Truth be told, they aren’t particularly big hills but they are hills and fun to ride on a motorcycle. Gratuitous … Continue reading →

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My hot rod Honda

Texas Adventure Posted on May 9, 2016 by RichardMay 4, 2016

This is my (modified) Honda XR650L on a fine spring day in the Texas hill country. Designed in the 1990s, the XR650L is an old school, air cooled, carbureted, 650cc thumper. I’ve made a lot of mods, including engine and transmission work, in … Continue reading →

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A simple graphic for determining if a problem exists

Texas Adventure Posted on January 22, 2016 by RichardJanuary 23, 2016

Here is a simple graphic to help you determine when a motorcycling problem exists.

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Battle of the Bikes: Husqvarna TE610 versus Honda XR650L

Texas Adventure Posted on November 2, 2015 by RichardJanuary 22, 2016

The Husky TE610/630 are the finest 6xx class dual sport motorcycles ever produced. Unfortunately, Husky discontinued the TEs in 2012, with no replacement in sight. However, the Honda XR650L is still available and it is a surprisingly good platform for a … Continue reading →

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